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Im kind of annoying myself with the comments I write so Im sure you guys are even more annoyed so please forgive me but such are just the facts and history rhymes... in a sinister way:
The Chernobyl disaster is yet again another CIA op aimed at braking the backbone of the Soviet Union - its rapidly growing at the time atomic industry.
And as usual the wind blew it back at the perpetrators of the West and they found themselves shitting against the fan.
Considering that one of the two other major nuclear disaster - Fukushima - was a malfunction allowed to happen on purpose and the earthquake was done with an ionospheric heater this tells you actually how safe nuclear energy is - VERY... (unless CIA is involved)...
If anyone has dirt on 3 mile island we can wrap this up.
Enjoy being annoyed now. CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA! :)

JackieChan wrote:

Im kind of annoying myself with the comments I write so Im sure you guys are even more annoyed so please forgive me but such are just the facts and history rhymes... in a sinister way:
The Chernobyl disaster is yet again another CIA op aimed at braking the backbone of the Soviet Union - its rapidly growing at the time atomic industry.
And as usual the wind blew it back at the perpetrators of the West and they found themselves shitting against the fan.
Considering that one of the two other major nuclear disaster - Fukushima - was a malfunction allowed to happen on purpose and the earthquake was done with an ionospheric heater this tells you actually how safe nuclear energy is - VERY... (unless CIA is involved)...
If anyone has dirt on 3 mile island we can wrap this up.
Enjoy being annoyed now. CIA CIA CIA CIA CIA! :)

don't buy the CIA doing chernobyl.. you got evidence of that?

you dont buy it?!!?! in the midst of the cold war while they are running 1000 ops against USSR? haha!
bro.... to a good detective sometimes means and motive are enough.
energy is the foundation of industrial and economic growth. break that and you break everything. convince them that nuclear is unsafe and they are in a gridlock. and nuclear was a really big deal back then.

JackieChan wrote:

you dont buy it?!!?! in the midst of the cold war while they are running 1000 ops against USSR? haha!
bro.... to a good detective sometimes means and motive are enough.
energy is the foundation of industrial and economic growth. break that and you break everything. convince them that nuclear is unsafe and they are in a gridlock. and nuclear was a really big deal back then.

i was a soldier in the cold war and just after. i know what went on and as far a "superior" nuclear tech went.. did they fuck have superior tech.
they still have inferior tech now.
While the CIA are cunts and have done many shitty things to say the least..don't get me wrong.. I don't buy this at all.
the USSR was a bag of wank , Russia is a bag of wank, Putin is the king of wanks. their army is fucking shite, their kit of fucking shite, their tactics are fucking shite, their t14 is hilariously shite and uses loads of out of date foreign components such as the old optics from france andan engine that goes back to an infamously shite one used in german tanks. See the parade where there was one that stalled.. quite embarrassing and their new "stealth plane" is also shite, they can't afford to build more t14's or su57's and they won't put them into service in the ukraine because then that would fuck sales up internationally as people would see they are wank pieces of kit.
as for the reactor... it has a positive void coefficient which means that the power would increase as the temperature went up which is the opposite or everyone else's reactors that. their diesel backups took 60 seconds as opposed to the 10 seconds that most others use to kick in and get the cooling back.
their reactor was designed to run at full tilt or powered down not at low power which is wasn't designed to run at safely. there was a design flaw in the control rods that mean under low power running conditions it would cause an increase in reactor power.
The folks at the power station were running a test without any input from the reactor designers to see if when shut down the residual heat could power a backup turbine. fine idea , shite kit to execute it on. on the low power setting it surged and became unstable, emergency shut downb was attempted and due to the state of teh reactor this caused a massive power spike.
that power spike... well just say you have a 1Kw electric fan heater could power 1 million electric fan heaters but with the spike put out enough to power 3.5 million, the water vapourised to steam and the pressure blew the the reactor to up like a motherfucker.
In essence the reactor design was fucking shite and the experimental stuff they were doing without consulting the engineers who put it together was also pretty fucking stupid. and that combination of stupid and shit design resulted in the disaster.
did the CIA have any part in the bad design of the reactor?
did they have any part in the test and how they did it without consultation of the people that built the reactor?
The USSR was a dictatorship, and the Russian federation with putin in charge is a dictatorship. both the same in regards to any form of opposition.. GO TO GULAG! or maybe have a nice cuppa with some free polonium .
It bewilders me why people are so pro putin and russia while at the same time banging on about "freedoms". you would get less freedoms there than in the "west".

pax wrote:

It bewilders me why people are so pro putin and russia while at the same time banging on about "freedoms". you would get less freedoms there than in the "west".

Congratulations! You just demonstrated that you bought the corporate media propaganda.

It's bewildering to you because what the media scum have been telling you for almost a decade makes no fucking sense. Nobody on the "right" are pro Russia, or Putin. They know an autocrat when they see one.

Time to stop parroting Democrat party talking points and think for yourself, no?

ConCen wrote:

pax wrote:
It bewilders me why people are so pro putin and russia while at the same time banging on about "freedoms". you would get less freedoms there than in the "west".

Congratulations! You just demonstrated that you bought the corporate media propaganda.
It's bewildering to you because what the media scum have been telling you for almost a decade makes no fucking sense. Nobody on the "right" are pro Russia, or Putin. They know an autocrat when they see one.
Time to stop parroting Democrat party talking points and think for yourself, no?

I didn't much admire the USSR and i don't much admire the russian federation. made my own mind up on that one.
Nobody on the right likes Russia? not so sure about that with elected republican officials praising putin along with trump.
Farage was in a caucus in the EU parliament with many pro Russian right wingers.
It's very common to hear those on the right to praise or excuse putin.
fuck the democrats, fuck the republics, the tories, labour, the snp, liberals and all politicians. they are all absolute bellends.
I do think for myself. opinions on things differ. mine just differs fromn you on the matter of Russia.

oh everyone is a dictatorship if they dont buy US weapons
fuck off
repeat mainstream shit and believe in coincidences
and your other (completely unrelated) point on the inferiority of russian weapons - hahahahahah!
1. they are not inferior. US has failed in hypersonic missile development and cannot even get close to russian ICBM tech. F35 is a joke full of bugs and costs multiple times what russians produce that has the same performance.
2. there is this joke going around: NASA invested millions in creating a pen that writes in zero gravity. Russia uses pencils! - this you can apply to everything else. US military is a spending machine designed to suck taxpayers dry for the benefit of the bankers who own the military corporations. Russian military is made for purposes of war. - this fact will be selfevident soon enough.

PS: do you watch only CNN that you are so out of touch with reality?
its literally all over the news that Russia outmatches artillery shell production of all of NATO many fold........... you are really inadequate bro... you could at least watch Alex Jones or something....

PPS: US does not have a space program. requires russian rockets to get to ISS. where is all your taxes going? in a black hole called the Pentagon. you cant even get a real president in office to do an audit.

JackieChan wrote:

US does not have a space program. requires russian rockets to get to ISS.

I don't know why you haven't heard of a little company called SpaceX. NASA pays them billions to take cargo and astronauts to the ISS. The US space force, NRO and pentagon uses them to launch their spook satellites.

Starlink is allowed to fly its thousands of super LEO satellites because under secret contract, the US military can take over the network at any time. If the Americans tried to throw up so many on their own, it would violate international space treaties and piss off every other country.

after the retirement of the space shuttle the US used russian rockets and hitched on flights from Baikonur to reach the ISS for almost a decade.
a real country has its own space program, military, and prints its own money. only in US everything is given to someone private to profit from while the country itself goes to shit.

JackieChan wrote:

after the retirement of the space shuttle the US used russian rockets and hitched on flights from Baikonur to reach the ISS for almost a decade.
a real country has its own space program, military, and prints its own money. only in US everything is given to someone private to profit from while the country itself goes to shit.

they don't now. they use space-x as had been said before. the pens were an govt invention but a purchase for 2400 USD.. not millions as you suggested.

CNN or any mainstream media.. very presumptuous of you to assume because i don't agree with your stance.
russia is shite and the leadership are cunts. al, politicians are cunts. russia are more cunty in my opinion. i am not, nor ever have been a member of any political party. this is because, as i said, they are all cunts.
erm.. the Us does indeed have a space program. they are not using the ancient russian rockets any more due to the likes of that duckhead musks company and then there's the joint effort 9forget the name) that does very heavy lifting stuff. seems to be mostly testing stage buty musk is taking them to ISS now.
not my taxes, i am Scottish and live in Scotland. :-)
You know that bollocks about "Russia uses a pencil".. kinda says it all. the pen that NASA used was funded by Paul c Fisher using 1 million of his own funds. NASA bought 400 of them a $6 a shot. so erm.. how did that mean NASA spent "millions" to develop something that a private company invented and sold them? they spent $2400 USD... which is any govt budget is pennies.
As for ammunition?? if they have so much why are they buying from china and North korea?????
the thing is the US kit works(generally) and the russian kit might or might not, the tanks are all susceptible to the likes of Javelin or even cheapo drones.
the Russian Military is pretty far from top notch as has been very clearly demonstrated. In the cold war their advantage was just sheer numbers of people and kit and their tactic was and still is to just keep throwing waves of people and kit at a front in the hopes of breaking through.
As for war spreading? wouldn't surprise me tbh but unless they pull out nukes they are going to get fucking battered.
so a lot of what you said was just not true and easily probably so.
I am not yer "bro" and Alex Jones.. used to be decent but became a "fear, smear.. BUY MY SUPPLEMENTS" kinda guy. he has become a caricature of what he once was sadly.
in summupance.. fuck russia , fuck putin and generally fuck all politicians.

yeah so the space pen shame which is well known by everyone has been discredited by certain statements made by NASA. no actual proof or anything at all. so yawn.
Russia is buying ammo from North Korea because they are at war and they are well aware that idiot america will not stop because its run by people with mentality like yours. so they are preparing for the worst.
statements like "ancient russian rockets" present you as a terribly inadequate person. Russia has the most advanced space program currently on the planet.
your concepts of russian tech inefficiency are based on propaganda and have no basis in reality. infact what you state is the opposite:

WATCH Russian drones take out US-made Abrams tank
Two UAVs worth $500 each helped to destroy a multimillion-dollar heavy tank
https://www.rt.com/russia/593709-two-russian-drones-abrams/

you can watch videos they post like that every day.
perhaps if you watched even some CNN you would be better educated than your current state.
Russia has state of the art EVERYTHING.
they have they have multiple warhead maneuverable hypersonic ICBMs which can create continental EMP which will leave you in a Mad Max scenario. ergo the secret underground US military facilities. they will go under and be ok. taxpayers will eat each other topside. elites will be on Fiji spending the money they made that you gave to the military industry for supporting CIA operative Zelenski - a man elected to make peace fyi.
Alex Jones is a much smarter person then you. and if you had watched some you would see how many things you have wrong. but he sells stuff so dont and stay ignorant.
your initial point - which was the only one of relevance to the conversation - that 80s nuclear tech had flaws and cannot compare to 2024 was good but proves nothing at all.
your comments of everyone being a dictator when they are people who have wide populous support and are re-elected again and again is just childish and typical of CNN nurtured brain-dead americans - hence my assumptions. whether politicians are "cunts" or not is not up to you and you dont get to decide how other people run their counties you imperialist interventionist.
and yeah certainly I am not your bro. you are stubborn cranky old fart.

JackieChan wrote:

Russia has the most advanced space program currently on the planet.

Nope. That would be SpaceX, by FAR. Nobody else even comes close. Where have you been? This is well known.

by far my ass
you guys live in a bubble :D

Who else can land and reuse a booster? Can the Russians? NO THEY CAN'T! Who is going to orbit the largest rocket ever built, in just a few months? The Russians? NOPE! I could go on, but I don't want to embarrass you too badly.

Tell me about bubbles again, Mr. Chan!

JackieChan wrote:

ICBMs which can create continental EMP

A simple calculation will tell you that the energy required to create an EMP large enough to destroy all the electronics in North America would have to be so large that it would most likely destroy the atmosphere itself.

EMPs are not nearly as dangerous as the story tellers want you to think they are. Take vehicles for instance. They are not attached to an electrical grid, so not vulnerable to power surges (which is the only real risk from EM energy).

Non directed energy disperses according to the inverse square law. The amount of energy needed to fry chips in a vehicle from an air gapped distance of more than a couple of INCHES is massive. Forget about even a few feet from the vehicle unless you have an EMP cannon with thousands of pounds of batteries. As for miles away? Not possible, unless targeted with a very tight beam (which itself takes lots of power). But if you need to aim at targets one at a time, why not just use explosives or projectiles?

@ConCen
In regards to your second comment: nuclear caused EMPs are done through a detonation above the stratosphere. clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. I did not bother reading your comment further as I dont care for babble.
In regards to your dumb SpaceX promotion: you have in fact made my point. how many billions were spent and how many rockets blew up for them to get the dumbest concept in the world - a landing rocket - working. I will tell you how many - a lot more than it would have costed to use disposable boosters. and just fyi in the mean time the have anti-gravitics which makes the whole thing terribly laughable.
now here is a little wiki article for you bubble boys about how the US has been using "ancient russian rocket" engines on US rockets for over 2 decades. why? BECAUSE RUSSIA IS THE LEADING SPACE POWER SINCE YURI GAGARIN.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RD-180

now to the relevant point:
you have spun this whole very dumb discussion in which you have made yourselves look like asses and the core of this comes from your mentality of us-against-them. a mentality typical for programed americans. you believe that you must conquer the world or someone will conquer you. when in fact everyone around the world -russia china etc just want to do free independent business. but america does not allow this. america runs mafia oppression tactics and pushes monopolies down everyone's throat.
may it be clear to you - I am not a representative or russia. I am a representative of reality.
the reality is that your imperialist mentality and you allowing your corrupt government to do a divide and conquer strategy pitching everyone against themselves - ukraine against russia, taiwan and japan against china, pakistan against india etc. - is the reason why everyone around the world hates americans and you have so much blood on your hands that you cannot imagine the tribulation coming for you. the prophecy is clear: when america destroys the free nations of the world (the ones you call autocratic) then God will destroy america. americas destruction is the culmination of the show. do you have your popcorn ready? we are almost there.

PS: the docu is uploaded on the site. EDUCATE YOURSELF:
https://concen.org/content/nukes-space-1999

PPS: I will clarify it for you because I piety how little you know about your impending fate. EMP caused by a nuke in space is no theory. its absolute fact. the russians have it and there is nothing that can stop it. recently it was even in the news that there is a consideration of using it if the conflict escalates. the energy grid which you have runs on very large transformers which literally cost millions and are produced with a per-order. production takes several years. from what I know US does not produce them. germany does. when the EMP hits you will see the aurora borealis, you will loose power, water, communication, and all transport which relies on electronics. the bastards will be underground from where they will launch their dumb counter-offensives while you people -as I stated- will eat each other (literally) because in concrete jungles like NYC - 8 million, no way out, no farms - cannibalism will prevail. this will be continental. this is also in the good book.
Einstein said - I dont know with what weapons they will fight WW3 but they will fight WW4 with sticks and stones.

someone needs a pretension enema!

thats what you say when youve got nothing to say bubble boy. proven wrong on all points.
as usual Jackie Chan strikes again! haha!
enjoy the vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyD7pxP51Bw
Im out ma niga!

JackieChan wrote:

thats what you say when youve got nothing to say bubble boy. proven wrong on all points.
as usual Jackie Chan strikes again! haha!
enjoy the vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyD7pxP51Bw
Im out ma niga!

what a total prick LOL
NASA didn't fund the development of the pen... though you state there is proof of it being otherwise but you post no proof of that.
Space X do the transport and not the ruskie mofos anymore.
If russian tech is so fucking magical why do they use 30 year old french optical sensors on the T14 armata? why do they use a shite variation of the ancient tiger tank engine they cloned over 70 years ago?
why is that shit heap not being dominating the battlefield in the Ukraine?
why has the SU57(another shite heap? not been seen there? why has it been the case that many of them have spontaneously dropped from the sky on fire? think it's the fucked jet engine they use in it?
russian tech is shitty and it's proven to be the case over and over in the battlefield with very public results that all can see.
why do you not respond to the fact spaceX are kicking ass with what they have achieved in such a short space of time?
why do you seem to think everyone who disagrees with you in "American".. i am Scottish yah dick and not American and Mr ConCen is absolutely not american either.
you are a silly, arrogant astroturfing, logical fallacy addicted fuck nugget and i hope yer next shite is a hedgehog... backwards.
while you may not be a representative of Russia or even russian , you still very much choke on poo-tin cock.
Putin is a cunt, russia is fucking shite, their tech is fucking shite and you pal are a fucking muppet.
Also you always go on about einstein being full of shit.. yet here you quote him as YOUR "appeal to authority"! that's fucking rich!
the video is a fucking cartoon..what proof is that?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
as they say here in Scotland, away and take yer face for a shit and stop talking nonsense

JackieChan wrote:

clearly you have no idea what you are talking about.

JackieChan wrote:

I did not bother reading your comment further as I dont care for babble..

JackieChan wrote:

In regards to your dumb SpaceX promotion.

JackieChan wrote:

and just fyi in the mean time the have anti-gravitics which makes the whole thing terribly laughable.

JackieChan wrote:

BECAUSE RUSSIA IS THE LEADING SPACE POWER SINCE YURI GAGARIN..

JackieChan wrote:

you have spun this whole very dumb discussion in which you have made yourselves look like asses.

JackieChan wrote:

I am not a representative or russia. I am a representative of reality..

JackieChan wrote:

PS: the docu is uploaded on the site. EDUCATE YOURSELF:
https://concen.org/content/nukes-space-1999.

I uploaded it. At no point does the film claim EMP nukes did anything worse on the ground than blow a few fuses and temporarily disrupt wireless communications. The film did mention that 3 satellites ceased working a few days after detonation, but that satellites (like any electronics) can be "hardened" against external EM.

JackieChan wrote:

I piety how little you know about your impending fate..

You are behaving like a petulant child. You will cease using that tone with me or be banned.

hahahahah!
is that the case? when you are proven wrong because you spew stuff that is totally out of whack with reality you ban people? talk about dictators...
heres a little fact for you on SpaceX:
they have received BILLIONS of government subsidies. YOU PAID for all those exploding rockets. you know what was really good at landing?- THE SHUTTLE! you know why they stopped using it? because its cost-effective and works so it does not make crazy money for rich guys. they shut that down and gave you the illusion of progress with landing rockets. but as usual it was not progress - it was the reality of wealth transfer from the poor to the rich. its yet another scam that americans fell for.
and as to your inability to do the research on nuclear caused EMPs - dont know how to comment. its not a conspiracy, not a secret, as I said it was even talked about being used in the news. when George Noory found out about this he had every expert he could find on the show and became a staunch proponent of the hardening of the grid. no one gave a shit what Noory said - they gave the money to Zelenski instead.
sad to know you dont have the integrity to admit to yourself that you a wrong and become right.
go ahead now - ban me and feel good about yourself... until you hear it on the news for yourself.

PS:
keep in mind I have multiple VPNs. if you ban my IP you will ban other people as well and this will in no way insure that I cant visit if I want to.
also keep in mind that sanctions work both ways. I have this site linked up in a lot of places and promote it to a lot of people. I can ban you too.
you wouldnt have a problem with the "way I speak to you" if you were right. its not my fault that you are not.

JackieChan wrote:

hahahahah!
is that the case? when you are proven wrong because you spew stuff that is totally out of whack with reality you ban people? talk about dictators...
heres a little fact for you on SpaceX:
they have received BILLIONS of government subsidies. YOU PAID for all those exploding rockets. you know what was really good at landing?- THE SHUTTLE! you know why they stopped using it? because its cost-effective and works so it does not make crazy money for rich guys. they shut that down and gave you the illusion of progress with landing rockets. but as usual it was not progress - it was the reality of wealth transfer from the poor to the rich. its yet another scam that americans fell for.
and as to your inability to do the research on nuclear caused EMPs - dont know how to comment. its not a conspiracy, not a secret, as I said it was even talked about being used in the news. when George Noory found out about this he had every expert he could find on the show and became a staunch proponent of the hardening of the grid. no one gave a shit what Noory said - they gave the money to Zelenski instead.
sad to know you dont have the integrity to admit to yourself that you a wrong and become right.
go ahead now - ban me and feel good about yourself... until you hear it on the news for yourself.
PS:
keep in mind I have multiple VPNs. if you ban my IP you will ban other people as well and this will in no way insure that I cant visit if I want to.
also keep in mind that sanctions work both ways. I have this site linked up in a lot of places and promote it to a lot of people. I can ban you too.
you wouldn't have a problem with the "way I speak to you" if you were right. its not my fault that you are not.

ok kiddo, you have provided ZERO evidence for your claims and it's quite a simple thing to disprove your claims.
Example 1 - the pen claim. it wasn't a NASA development, it didn't cost the public millions . It cost the public purse a grand total of $2,400 USD(400 x $4 uSD).

You persistently state that i am somehow magically american when i am Scottish. Mr ConCen is Canadian ........ you know.. NOT American

you seem to think that russian is the greatest tech nation on earth.. and that's objectively not true. you conveniently leave out spacex when talking about transport to the ISS.

you ignore the fact that the reactor design was flawed at Chernobyl. it's a fast breeder reactor that was primarily for plutonium production and power was a side benefit. somehow you seem to think that disastrously dangerous design was the pinnacle of nuclear tech.

you just ignored the points about the T14 armata being a sack of shit with a slightly tweaked version of a 1930's german tank engine which is renowned for being an absolute bag of shite as demonstrated by the T14 in Red square breaking down.Or the fact it uses old optics tech from France that are very far removed from cutting edge. Or the SU57's with a severe design flaw in the engine that has seen many of the burst into flames and fall out the sky?

you have also ignored the point about how you brought up einstein as your "appeal to authority" when you regularly say he's full of shit. not just hypocrisy but text book logical fallacy to boot.

anytime either of us correctly point out what you have said is unsubstantiated bollocks.. you make belligerently dismissive retorts that further show your ignorance and even posted a video which was largely animated as some kind of evidence.... it is not evidence..

you are acting like a spoilt, entitled, cockwomble, spiteful child. you seem to think you are some sort of all knowing being. in my experience people like you know tiny bits about many things but think you are somehow a world expert at all. When i was in the army we would call people like you a "W.E.A.F.A. - world expert at fuck all" or a cockwomble or both! people who are so astonishingly up their own anus they wear their rectal sphincter as a necklace.

and finally... your PS just shows your massively over inflated ego in action again. so you think that you have massive influence around the internet and on your word this site would somehow magically at your command become an empty place? do what you want to do kiddo or what you think you are capable of because pal, this site gets quite an astonishing amount of traffic. you seriously overestimate your importance in the world , you think of a potential ban as "sanctions".. that made me laugh. in fact your nonsense often does.
you are just a pathetic, little weak minded dipstick with an overblown and outstandingly fragile ego and your mind is a permanent residence of the dunning Kruger effect. silly wee boy that chokes on poo-tins tiny cock

People on this site can have any opinion on any topic they like; I think a quick look around here proves that.

At ConCen, you don't have to agree with other opinions; you are welcome to proudly give yours without ridicule, no matter how offbeat. The more offbeat, the better IMO! My only rule on that is you must be sincere.

Mr. Chan is banned for childish petulance. I put too much work into this place just to have someone walk into it, piss on the carpet, and threaten me for daring to object.

Although he cannot read this reply on the site, I will email him a copy. He is welcome back if he apologizes for insulting the person who runs this site (never a good idea), instead of just his ideas.

JackieChan wrote:

hahahahah!

You're about as funny as cancer.

JackieChan wrote:

is that the case? when you are proven wrong because you spew stuff that is totally out of whack with reality you ban people?

No Mister Chan, as I already explained (but you ignored because you're not interested in telling the truth, only arguing like a child) I ban people for behaving like petulant children.

JackieChan wrote:

talk about dictators...

That's exactly what I am on this site. This is not a democracy. You are here because I allow you, not because you have a right to be. Unearned self entitlement is another symptom of immaturity. It is time to grow up, Master Chan.

JackieChan wrote:

[SpaceX] have received BILLIONS of government subsidies. YOU PAID for all those exploding rockets.

I'm Canadian, but thanks for proving your ignorant arrogance; yet another sign of immaturity, Child Chan.

JackieChan wrote:

you know what was really good at landing?- THE SHUTTLE!

Indeed it was! Truly a sight to behold.

JackieChan wrote:

you know why they stopped using it?

Was it for the same reason the Russians stopped flying theirs after only one flight? Tell us more about superior Russian space technology!

JackieChan wrote:

because its cost-effective and works so it does not make crazy money for rich guys.

The shuttle was, on paper, designed to save money, but ultimately it was wasteful and dangerous for these main reasons IMO:

  1. It was very heavy. A huge amount of fuel was needed just to boost the vehicle itself into orbit, limiting its payload capacity and ability to achieve higher orbits
  2. The heat shield design was flawed. Every tile was a unique shape, they were fragile, and fell off easily. Replacing them was unnecessarily expensive

The [STS] program was wildly expensive. The average cost of a shuttle launch was a mind-boggling $450 million
Why did NASA retire the Space Shuttle?

The shuttle was revealed to be a high-risk, experimental vehicle — something most astronauts had known all along.
Why did NASA retire the Space Shuttle?

at least half of the work performed on the orbiter in the Orbiter Processing Facility was repairing the thermal protection system
Were any Space Shuttle tiles replaced in space?

JackieChan wrote:

they shut that down and gave you the illusion of progress with landing rockets. but as usual it was not progress - it was the reality of wealth transfer from the poor to the rich.

Landing a booster onto a ship in the ocean is an astounding achievement by any measure (except yours apparently). To this day, every landing video has many comments along the lines of "Amazing! This never gets old."

JackieChan wrote:

its yet another scam that americans fell for.

Americans overall are astounded by SpaceX's achievements. They look forward to Starship and the colonization of the moon and Mars. You? Not so much I guess...

JackieChan wrote:

and as to your inability to do the research on nuclear caused EMPs - dont know how to comment.

I watched the film which you linked and I uploaded. Did you? If so, did you understand the part where they mentioned the only damage from the rainbow nukes were blown fuses? You are in no position to accuse me of not researching EMP, Toddler Chan.

JackieChan wrote:

its not a conspiracy, not a secret, as I said it was even talked about being used in the news.

Thank you for the revelation. I don't know where you got the idea that I think EMP is a conspiracy, or a secret. Who thinks a known phenomenon is a conspiracy? Or are you just making a silly straw man argument as a feeble futile attack? You're obviously unaware of the other material I uploaded here regarding EMP.

JackieChan wrote:

when George Noory found out about this he had every expert he could find on the show and became a staunch proponent of the hardening of the grid. no one gave a shit what Noory said

More nonsense. Plenty of people in the electronics and electrical fields understand the necessity of hardening devices from EMP. They knew about EMP effects since the Carrington Event in 1859. The sun is capable of doing far more damage to the electrical grid than humans can currently do. If the sun spits a huge plasma loogie right at Earth, it could potentially strip some or most of our atmosphere away! Try that with nukes - it just won't happen unless thousands of nukes were detonated simultaneously. Doing so would rain so much fallout all over the planet that we would most likely be doomed to extinction.

I already explained to you that devices which are not connected to the power grid cannot be fried by EMP nukes. So the idea that a nuke can destroy all electronic devices is just ignorance. Since you choose to ignore what I already explained to you, your ignorance is wilful.

JackieChan wrote:

they gave the money to Zelenski instead.

The hundreds of billions given to Ukraine is pure theft. Only fools and crooks claim otherwise, Baby Chan.

JackieChan wrote:

sad to know you dont have the integrity to admit to yourself that you a wrong and become right.

More nonsense. Your feeble attempts to win with lies are transparent, Infant Chan. I'm frequently wrong (programmers and SysAdmins know what I'm talking about). I just need facts, not ad hominem attacks.

JackieChan wrote:

go ahead now - ban me and feel good about yourself... until you hear it on the news for yourself.

I've been hearing fear porn from many sources for many decades. Wherever there is easy money to be made, the greeps are there.

JackieChan wrote:

keep in mind I have multiple VPNs. if you ban my IP you will ban other people as well and this will in no way insure that I cant visit if I want to.

Keep in mind that I've been working with networks for over 30 years. Only a fool would try to ban someone via IP address. Never assume that the person you threaten is as dumb as you are.

JackieChan wrote:

also keep in mind that sanctions work both ways. I have this site linked up in a lot of places and promote it to a lot of people. I can ban you too.

So now the threats. You just crossed a line, Fetus Chan. Time to abort you.

ConCen was never about popularity. A big reason why it has been around this long is because it's below mainstream radar. It could easily be much higher profile if that was the goal.

If your behaviour here is an indication of how you behave at these other places, then you are doing this site more harm than good.

JackieChan wrote:

you wouldnt have a problem with the "way I speak to you" if you were right. its not my fault that you are not.

Another lie. You claim to know what you cannot, yet you deny what I already told you. I quoted your petulant childish words right back at you.

I try to be right, but I'm not arrogant enough to believe I am all the time, Embryo Chan.

I don't measure my self worth on the popularity of my opinions. I don't get my opinions by joining a group with a prefab set of beliefs. I am an independent thinker who doesn't follow where others lead;I go only where my curiosity takes me.

I form opinions when I know enough about something to take a position. If I don't know enough, I'm wise enough to understand that having an opinion would be unwise.

I will change my opinions instantly if new evidence warrants it... including my opinion on whether you deserve to be here.

Your past contributions are not forgotten, Zygote Chan!